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Notes and Queries, Vol. V, Number 124, March 13, 1852 A Medium of Inter-communication for Literary Men, Artists, Antiquaries, Genealogists, etc.
once, a bed of organs set,
The pigs came in, and eat up every whit;
The goodman said, Wife, you your garden may
Hogs Norton call, here pigs on organs play."
Organs from "organy;" French, origan; Latin, origanum.
Now it is evident that in 1640 the proverb was in vogue, and well understood; but organs were not at that time common in churches, especially parish churches, and as I do not know which of the many Nortons in England is Mr. Peck's Hocks Norton, I cannot help considering his derivation somewhat in the light of an anachronism.
I do not know the date of Howell's English Proverbs quoted by Mr. Halliwell in his Archaic Dictionary. Should there be such a place as Hog's Norton, or Hock's Norton, is the Hock = Hok = oak tree? Acorns and pigs were common associates.
The only instance that I recollect of pigs being connected with an organ, is in that curious freak recorded of the Abbé Debaigne, maître de musique to Louis XI., when he made a hog-organ by enclosing pigs of various ages and pitches of voice in a kind of chest; the older ones on the left hand for the bass, and the younger on the right for the treble: over all these was suspended a key-board, which, when played on, pressed long needles into the pigs' backs,—the result is left to the imagination.
THOS. LAWRENCE.
Minor Queries.
The Judge alluded to by South.
—South, in a note in his first Sermon on Covetousness (vol. iv. p. 448., 4th edition, 1727), tells us of a lawyer, "a confident of the rebels," who recommended that the Duke of Gloucester, the youngest son of Charles I., should be bound "to some good trade, that so he might eat his bread honestly." He then expresses wonder that Charles II. made this lawyer a judge; a practice, he adds, and doubtless with a meaning, "not unusual in the courts of some princes, to encourage and prefer their mortal enemies, before their truest friends."
Can any of your correspondents tell us more on the subject, and the name of the judge?
The recommendation was probably given at the time when the Duke and the Princess Elizabeth were removed from Penshurst to Carisbrooke, where, according to instructions, they were not to be treated as royal children.
I may refer your readers to Lord Clarendon's Hist. (vii. 84.), and to a letter and interesting note in Sir H. Ellis's Collection of Letters, iii. 329. Evelyn describes the Duke as "a prince of extraordinary hopes."
Did South, in his reflection on princes, refer to himself? Wood, his bitter foe, tells us that "he could never be enough loaded with preferment; while others, who had been reduced to a bit of bread for his Majesty's cause, could get nothing." In 1660 he "tugged hard," adds Wood, to be Can of Ch. Ch., but failed: in ten years afterwards he succeeded.
J. H. M.
Bath.
English Translation of the Canons.
—In the 36th canon the record of the subscriptions is, Quod liber publicæ Liturgiæ ... nihil in se contineat quod verbo Dei sit contrarium; quodque eodem taliter uti liceat. This is copied from Bishop Sparrow's collection. The English translation, to which subscription is now made, has the following rendering of the second clause—and that the same may be lawfully used. The word taliter seems to be not rendered at all. Without wishing to provoke theological controversy, I should ask, by what authority, and at what date, was the English translation imposed upon the clergy and graduates, all of whom understand Latin? Is it affirmed that the English renders the Latin fully, or is the English translation avowedly intended to fall short? I will not ask the meaning of the word taliter in the minds of those who imposed the Latin subscription, because answers might provoke the inadmissible kind of controversy.
M.
Snuff-boxes and Tobacco-pipes.
—In which book can I find the best account of the manufacture of snuff-boxes, particularly of those manufactured in Mauchline and Laurencekirk, Scotland?
Also of the manufacture of cigars in London, the number of persons engaged in the trade, and general statistics thereof?
Also of the manufacture of tobacco-pipes, and of the "Incorporated Company of Tobacco-pipe Manufacturers," and the statistics of the trade?
D. W. L.
Cromwell.
—Is it true that Oliver Cromwell held the office of cup-bearer to King Charles I.? I ask this question, because at a recent sale of MSS. by Messrs. Puttick and Simpson occurs this lot:
"226. Committee for Public Revenue. Order for the payment of arrears of annual salary of 66l. 13s. 4d., due Christmas last, to Major Oliver Cromwell, for his attending the late King as Cup-bearer. Signed ED. HOWARD (Lord Howard of Escrick, co. York); SIR H. VANE; H. EDWARDES; JOHN TRENCHARD; and COR HOLLAND: the receipt dated July 2, signed O. CROMWELL. Thomas Fauconberge subsequently became Cromwell's son-in-law; at the corner is his autograph order, for the amount to be promptly paid. July 2, 1649."
G. W. J.
Meaning of Wallop
—In the article of Collins's Peerage which narrates the history of the "Wallops, Earls of Portsmouth," great and deserved praise is bestowed upon Sir John Wallop, a most valorous and successful military commander.
Not to trouble you with more, I make one extract, which is, for more reasons than one, likely to be interesting:
"Sir John Wallop, in 6 Henry VIII., was sent as Admiral and Commander-in-Chief of the fleet, to encounter Prior John, the French Admiral, who, landing in Sussex, had burnt the town of Brighthelmstone. The French getting into their own ports, Sir John Wallop sailed to the coast of Normandy, and there landed and burnt twenty-one villages and towns with great slaughter, and also the ships and boats in the havens of Treaport, Staple, &c., wherein he acquitted himself with such conduct and valour, that all our historians have mentioned this expedition much to his honour."
The Query which I desire to ask is, whether the significant, but somewhat coarse phrase of "to wallop," have its origin in the exploits of this gallant ancestor of the Earl of Portsmouth?
E. S. S. W.
Winton.
The "Mistral."
—There is an old French proverb which says:
"Trois fléaux en Provence,
Le Parlement, le Mistral, la Durance."
The first of these scourges has disappeared: the third will probably last for ever: but what of the second?
The Mistral is a kind of whirlwind (partaking of the character of the African simoon, or of the West Indian hurricane), which pays its annual visits to Provence, and causes the most frightful devastation along the banks of the Rhone. It is spoken of by Seneca, and other writers of his time; and the Emperor Augustus is said to have raised a temple to it during his residence in