Mr. Jenner. Of what country are you a native?

Mr. Glover. United States.

Mr. Jenner. You were born in the United States?

Mr. Glover. Oh, yes.

Mr. Jenner. How old are you?

Mr. Glover. 47 years old.

Mr. Jenner. Where were you born in the United States?

Mr. Glover. I was born in Worcester, Mass. I resided in Millbury, Mass., but I was actually born in the city of Worcester.

Mr. Jenner. Tell me about your education, please. Elementary school and high school and if you went beyond high school.

Mr. Glover. Yes; I went to college at North Clark University in Worcester, Mass., and I later went to the University of Wisconsin. I completed a master's degree there and a great deal of work on a doctor's degree.

Mr. Jenner. So you have a bachelor of arts degree?

Mr. Glover. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. And master's degree and you have completed a good deal of work on a Ph. D.?

Mr. Glover. Right.

Mr. Jenner. You were first married when?

Mr. Glover. 1940.

Mr. Jenner. Where were you residing then?

Mr. Glover. At that time I was residing in Worcester, Mass.

Mr. Jenner. What was your wife's maiden name?

Mr. Glover. The name was Mary Elizabeth Butler.

Mr. Jenner. She was a resident of Worcester, was she?

Mr. Glover. She was a resident of Worcester.

Mr. Jenner. And was a native-born American?

Mr. Glover. Yes; she was.

Mr. Jenner. How many children do you have by that marriage?

Mr. Glover. I have one.

Mr. Jenner. He is with his mother, is he?

Mr. Glover. He is with his mother now in Pennsylvania; yes.

Mr. Jenner. That marriage was terminated in divorce when?

Mr. Glover. In Texas last year, 1963, in June, I believe it was, the 29th.

Mr. Jenner. All right, had you been separated from your wife prior to that time?

Mr. Glover. Yes; I had been separated.

Mr. Jenner. When did the separation occur?

Mr. Glover. The separation occurred on approximately September 1 of 1962.

Mr. Jenner. Where were you residing then?

Mr. Glover. I was residing at 4449 Potomac.

Mr. Jenner. Did your wife leave this vicinity then?

Mr. Glover. Yes; she left this vicinity then.

Mr. Jenner. And returned to where or went to where?

Mr. Glover. She didn't return. The circumstances of her leaving were that my son is very interested avocationally in ice skating, and he had earned enough money selling the Times Herald, the local newspaper, to take him for 1 summer's ice skating, and it so happened that he ended up in Hershey, Pa., which has a teacher or pro who is very good, and the circumstances just happened that way.

Mr. Jenner. Indoor arena rink?

Mr. Glover. Yes; he stayed there for the summer and he wanted to stay there beyond that time very badly. He wanted to continue his ice skating under some such situation as he had there, and my wife and I had not gotten along too well, and it seemed like a natural time to make a separation, so she left and went to Pennsylvania during this time at approximately the end of the summer and stayed there, and I filed for a divorce.

Again I am not sure of the actual date, but approximately December 1 of that year, 1962. And the divorce was granted in the summer in 1963, approximately June 29, of 1963.

Mr. Jenner. And you remarried when?

Mr. Glover. I remarried August the 26th of this same year, 1963.

Mr. Jenner. And remained in the same quarters, did you?

Mr. Glover. No; I moved about April 20 to 5723 Southwestern Boulevard after having sold the house at 4449 Potomac, which I owned, and made the divorce settlement.

Then I moved to 5723 Southwestern Boulevard where I rented a house with two colleagues of mine where I worked, who were all unattached, since I had to move from 4449 Potomac. One moved in on December 1, 1962, and another one on January 1, 1963.

Mr. Jenner. Now when you and your wife separated, that is when she went to Pennsylvania, Hershey, Pa., with her son for this period, did anyone join you in your quarters as roommates or persons living with you?

Mr. Glover. Well, these are the people I just referred to. One man, Richard L. Pierce, who works with me in the same section of my laboratory, joined me December 1, of 1962, and the second man, Volkmar Schmidt, who came from Germany and worked with the company as a geologist, came to live with me approximately January 1.

It was an arrangement we tried out to see if there would be mutual satisfaction.

Mr. Jenner. Do you have a German derivation?

Mr. Glover. I do not.

Mr. Jenner. What is yours?

Mr. Glover. My background on that respect, my derivation would be English on both sides. I know on the Glover side it is English and goes back down to the 1700, but I don't know the other side very well.

Mr. Jenner. All right. What is your occupation, profession, business or avocation?

Mr. Glover. Well, occupation is as a chemist working with the geology group in the exploration section of Socony Mobil Oil Co., Field Research Laboratory here in Dallas.

Mr. Jenner. Your master's degree was in what?

Mr. Glover. It was in soil science.

Mr. Jenner. Involved chemistry?

Mr. Glover. Involved chemistry of fine grain material such as soil, sediments, and so forth.

This is the reason that I am working where I am, because of the kind of work I do, in the geology section. It is not soil per se, but using techniques in dealing with problems similar to soil problems.

Mr. Jenner. And in turn, related to the discovery or production or recovery of oil?

Mr. Glover. It is related particularly to the exploration for oil. That is the study of the mechanical constituents of rocks in which the oil is found.

I would say involving research work in order to find some more easily recognized signs of oil. That is the long term objective.

Mr. Jenner. I would say this to you, sir. It is common that witnesses can, especially in this type of examination where the witness sits across the desk from a questioner, to drop his voice. So to the extent that you can recall it, you won't do it all the time, keep your voice up.

Mr. Glover. Yes.

Mr. Jenner. Are you acquainted with a