recall.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall how you arrived at the time at 9:30, stated in the report? Was that based on your records?

Chief Batchelor. That was fresh in my mind when we wrote this report.

Mr. Griffin. Now, who was left in charge of the police department that night after you left at 9:30?

Chief Batchelor. We have a night chief who comes on at 5 o'clock in the afternoon and he works until 2 in the morning.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall who it was that night?

Chief Batchelor. Well, there is only one. It would have been Chief Jack Tanner.

Mr. Griffin. Who would then replace him at 2 o'clock in the morning?

Chief Batchelor. No one. There is a, well, I say no one. There is an inspector also who works around the clock. I don't recall which inspector was on duty that night, but there is an inspector on duty at night around the clock.

Mr. Griffin. I notice—if you want to refer to your report on page 29, the report indicates that you received a telephone call at your home about 6:30 in the morning from Captain Talbert. Can you tell us what that call was about?

Chief Batchelor. Yes, sir. He called and informed me that he had gotten a call, and he didn't tell me at the time where he got it; he said an anonymous call.

Later I learned it came from the FBI, and they in turn had called him. That about a hundred men were going to take the prisoner Oswald and they didn't want to get any policeman hurt. So I told him to send a squad by Chief Curry's house and inform him about it. And at that moment we weren't concerned about him in the jail. We were concerned about him in the transfer.

Mr. Griffin. Why did Talbert call you rather than some other member of the police department?

Chief Batchelor. He tried to call Chief Curry and he couldn't get him to answer his phone. I guess he was dog-tired and he couldn't get him up. And I told him to send a squad car by and tell him.

Mr. Griffin. I see. Did you have any discussion with him at that point who had responsibility to make this decision? Did you feel you had the responsibility to give instructions on the basis of having received this report that some men were going to try to go after Oswald? Did you feel you had any responsibility to take any protective action?

Chief Batchelor. At that moment?

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Chief Batchelor. No. The way it came to me, it was my feeling that this was to happen when we attempted to transfer him, not to come up to the jail and get him.

Mr. Griffin. What did you do after you received that phone call?

Chief Batchelor. I got up and dressed to come down to the office.

Mr. Griffin. What time did you arrive down at the office?

Chief Batchelor. About 8 o'clock.

Mr. Griffin. What did you do when you got to the office?

Chief Batchelor. Chief Stevenson and I got there about the same time. I parked my car in the basement and we walked into the city hall or into the police station, and we noticed a television camera set up in the areaway leading into the garage.

I made the comment that they would have to do something about the television camera because it was right in the path where they would bring the prisoner out. There was no one around the camera. It was just sitting there.

Mr. Griffin. I want to hand you here, chief, a diagram of the inside of the basement garage area. Do you have a pencil or anything that you can mark with?

Chief Batchelor. Yes. The camera—can I mark here?

Mr. Griffin. Yes.

Chief Batchelor. The camera was sitting right here.

Mr. Griffin. Would you put a "C" there so we know it is a camera.

Chief Batchelor. [Complies.]

Mr. Griffin. Now, what television station had this camera there?

Chief Batchelor. It was KRLD.

Mr. Griffin. What makes you think it was KRLD?

Chief Batchelor. I just seem to recall that in my mind the letters on the side of the camera. I could be wrong. It could have been a WBAP camera.

Mr. Griffin. Was the camera manned?

Chief Batchelor. No, sir.

Mr. Griffin. Were there any other people in the basement area at that time?

Chief Batchelor. No, sir.

Mr. Griffin. Who was it that you instructed to move the camera?

Chief Batchelor. I didn't instruct anybody at that moment. We merely commented it was going to be moved, but instructed it to be moved later when we came back down.

Mr. Griffin. Now, what did you do after you passed the camera?

Chief Batchelor. Went up to the office.

Mr. Griffin. How did you go?

Chief Batchelor. Went through the basement and into the elevator and went up.

Mr. Griffin. You went up to the third floor?

Chief Batchelor. Yes.

Mr. Griffin. To your office. Do you remember what conversation you had with Chief Stevenson along the way?

Chief Batchelor. Well, we were commenting about that camera and that they were going to have to move it, and we were going to have to man that basement. But at the moment, plans hadn't jelled as to when we would move him. Actually, back in our minds, I suppose, was the idea that when the time came, that the sheriff's department would probably move him, because this is customary in moving a prisoner. They normally come down and get the prisoner.

Mr. Griffin. Did you discuss with Chief Stevenson anywhere along the way upstairs this phone call which you received from Mr. Talbert earlier in the morning?

Chief Batchelor. Yes; I think I mentioned that to him.

Mr. Griffin. Do you remember anything about that conversation?

Chief Batchelor. Not anything especially.

Mr. Griffin. Do you recall whether he knew or Stevenson knew at the time you saw him down in the basement that there had been such a threat?

Chief Batchelor. I believe he did. I think someone from one of his bureaus had called him, if I remember right. It was rather common knowledge that a call like that had been received.

Mr. Griffin. As you walked to the elevator in the basement, do you recall whether or not there were any people in the basement?

Chief Batchelor. No; I don't remember anybody except those people in the jail office.

Mr. Griffin. The people in the jail office were employees of the jail?

Chief Batchelor. They were the jail crew that stay on all night long; yes. Not the all night. These would have been the morning shift just come on.

Mr. Griffin. At what time did